Liv Langma Advanced 2 vs Ridley Grifn 105 2x12: weight?

The Liv Langma Advanced 2 is 0.9kg lighter, which you notice on long climbs more than anywhere else.

Liv Langma Advanced 2 vs Ridley Grifn 105 2x12: tyre clearance?

The Ridley Grifn 105 2x12 takes 38mm tyres against 33mm — the single most common thing buyers wish they had more of.

Liv Langma Advanced 2 vs Ridley Grifn 105 2x12: mudguards?

Only the Ridley Grifn 105 2x12 takes mudguards, which decides whether it can be your winter bike.

Liv Langma Advanced 2 vs Ridley Grifn 105 2x12

Both are close enough that people cross-shop them at a similar price. Here is what actually separates them.

The short answer

For a typical all-round rider the Liv Langma Advanced 2 comes out ahead (76% against 71%). That is not a universal verdict — change the terrain or the priority and the order can flip.

Liv

Langma Advanced 2

76% for a typical rider

£2,299 at Brand website

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Ridley

Grifn 105 2x12

71% for a typical rider

£2,299 at Brand website

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What actually separates them

Weight: The Liv Langma Advanced 2 is 0.9kg lighter, which you notice on long climbs more than anywhere else.
Tyre clearance: The Ridley Grifn 105 2x12 takes 38mm tyres against 33mm — the single most common thing buyers wish they had more of.
Mudguards: Only the Ridley Grifn 105 2x12 takes mudguards, which decides whether it can be your winter bike.

Side by side

Spec	Langma Advanced 2	Grifn 105 2x12
Price	£2,299	£2,299
Weight	8.3 kg	9.2 kg
Frame	carbon	carbon
Groupset	Shimano 105 12-speed mechanical	Shimano 105 R7100 2x12 mechanical
Stack / reach	1.48	1.50
Tyre clearance	33 mm	38 mm
Lowest gear	29 in	27 in
Mudguard mounts	No	Yes
Comfort	46	57
Speed	65	49
Climbing	66	57
Value	43	35

Neither might be the right answer

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