Liv Avail Advanced 2 vs Ridley Grifn 105 2x12
Both are close enough that people cross-shop them at a similar price. Here is what actually separates them.
The short answer
For a typical all-round rider the Liv Avail Advanced 2 comes out ahead (79% against 71%). That is not a universal verdict — change the terrain or the priority and the order can flip.
What actually separates them
- Weight
- The Liv Avail Advanced 2 is 0.3kg lighter, which you notice on long climbs more than anywhere else.
- Riding position
- The Liv Avail Advanced 2 sits you more upright (1.55 stack-to-reach against 1.50). The Ridley Grifn 105 2x12 is the more aggressive of the two — quicker if you can hold it, harder work if you cannot.
- Tyre clearance
- The Liv Avail Advanced 2 takes 40mm tyres against 38mm — the single most common thing buyers wish they had more of.
Side by side
| Spec | Avail Advanced 2 | Grifn 105 2x12 |
|---|---|---|
| Price | £2,299 | £2,299 |
| Weight | 8.9 kg | 9.2 kg |
| Frame | carbon | carbon |
| Groupset | Shimano 105 12-speed mechanical | Shimano 105 R7100 2x12 mechanical |
| Stack / reach | 1.55 | 1.50 |
| Tyre clearance | 40 mm | 38 mm |
| Lowest gear | 26 in | 27 in |
| Mudguard mounts | Yes | Yes |
| Comfort | 71 | 57 |
| Speed | 45 | 49 |
| Climbing | 65 | 57 |
| Value | 38 | 35 |
Neither might be the right answer
This page assumes an average rider. Tell us how you actually ride and we will rank these two against everything else at the price.
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