Liv Avail Advanced 3 vs Van Rysel EDR CF 105 Di2
Both are endurance bikes at a similar price. Here is what actually separates them.
The short answer
For a typical all-round rider the Van Rysel EDR CF 105 Di2 comes out ahead (81% against 76%). That is not a universal verdict — change the terrain or the priority and the order can flip.
What actually separates them
- Price
- The Liv Avail Advanced 3 is £200 cheaper — £1,999 against £2,199.
- Weight
- The Van Rysel EDR CF 105 Di2 is 1.1kg lighter, which you notice on long climbs more than anywhere else.
- Riding position
- The Liv Avail Advanced 3 sits you more upright (1.52 stack-to-reach against 1.49). The Van Rysel EDR CF 105 Di2 is the more aggressive of the two — quicker if you can hold it, harder work if you cannot.
- Tyre clearance
- The Liv Avail Advanced 3 takes 40mm tyres against 32mm — the single most common thing buyers wish they had more of.
- Shifting
- Only the Van Rysel EDR CF 105 Di2 has electronic shifting. Crisper and lower maintenance, but it needs charging and costs more to replace.
- Mudguards
- Only the Liv Avail Advanced 3 takes mudguards, which decides whether it can be your winter bike.
Side by side
| Spec | Avail Advanced 3 | EDR CF 105 Di2 |
|---|---|---|
| Price | £1,999 | £2,199 |
| Weight | 9.5 kg | 8.4 kg |
| Frame | carbon | carbon |
| Groupset | Shimano Tiagra 2x10 mechanical | Shimano 105 R7100 Di2 |
| Stack / reach | 1.52 | 1.49 |
| Tyre clearance | 40 mm | 32 mm |
| Lowest gear | 27 in | 27 in |
| Mudguard mounts | Yes | No |
| Comfort | 67 | 49 |
| Speed | 41 | 63 |
| Climbing | 53 | 68 |
| Value | 45 | 70 |
Neither might be the right answer
This page assumes an average rider. Tell us how you actually ride and we will rank these two against everything else at the price.
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